thorn. Okay, this isn't anywhere near as bad as what some of you have endured - those stories were even painful to read! Franks and beans. I pulled it out(as well as the rest of the spine tips lodged in various parts of the palm)and the area close to the bone felt sore for a couple weeks but all was well in the end. is it just me or is trying to not get stabbed half the fun??? So, I learned a bit, including about being wary of stereotypes, but, well, some of them are at least partially true . First time I have ever seen that phrase written though. You could see the spine 3/4 the way down the nail. It took me off line for a few days. The spine came through the top of her foot! We avoid using tertiary references. check out the FAQ by clicking the Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or lost profits or revenue, claims by third parties or for other similar costs, or any special, incidental, or consequential damages arising out of my opinion or the use of this data. I went to the emergency room and after cutting a nice little incision to get to the spine, and having the nurse help him pull the muscles back to give him access to the back end of the spineit took him about 30 minutes of digging and prying with various instruments from tweezers to finally locking hemostats to finally dislodge it from the bone. The BMJ article documented the case of an otherwise healthy 14-year-old boy who developed an arthritis-like injury of the knee from a date palm thorn puncture six weeks before treatment. I got stabbed with a palm tree thorn on my ankle at 11am and within an hour I started having a lot of pain, followed by swelling in my ankle, and now very limited mobility it's now 9:40pm. 1996-2023, Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates, Green Palm Tree Stabbed With Cactus Thorns Classic Mug. Please check compatibility before purchasing. Plant thorn arthritis can affect joints that come into contact with a plant thorn, such as the finger, knee, or ankle joints. Plant-thorn synovitis is a rare cause of arthritis from a plant thorn penetrating a joint. If any of you guys have ever wondered why palms even have thorns you only need to look in the mirror. Yes, carrying trimmed Livistona and Washingtonia fronds is not something I do carelessly anymore. Managed to break the tip off under the skin too, had to dig it out with an exacto knife and tweezers. The worst was a nasty cut from a Copernicia alba; the recurved thorns on its petioles are like cat claws. QVC's Privacy Statement does not apply to these third-party web sites. Once when I was in Nam (Viet that is), we were hunkered down taking some fire from Charlie and as I rolled over to cover a grenade w/ my body to save our platoon I rolled right into a clump of Salacca. Well, I haven't but here is what I found in a search. The worst case though was a work colleague who on bending down doing weeding, got poked in the eye by a young alex spear. Zone 10b (Zone 11 except for once evey 10 or 20 years), Last Freeze: 2011,50 Miles North of Fairchilds. I haven't stepped on one, BUT I have been poked in the side with one. . I haven't had any serious injuries but I know of two very bad cases. While sago palms (Cycas revoluta) might look innocuous and inviting, the hardy plants are highly poisonous to both human beings and pets. If he gets stuck he gets a bad infection and winds up at the doctors for antibiotics or something. Duerinckx JF. Find recent orders, do a return or exchange, create a Wish List & more. I have been jabbed many times but the worse was when I was pulling some weeds near one. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Scared me enough to be very careful but it seems no matter how cautios you are they still manage to poke you. A few months back my 15 yr. old son was sliding down an outside bannister without a shirt on, fell off into a Washingtonia that was about 4' tall. There can be bacteria on the thorns, if it is very painful and swollen you should get it checked out. 2005-2023 Healthline Media a Red Ventures Company. The first time, I was planting my dear lil dypsis and having a bear of a time - and I dunno how it happened but I wrenched my neck so hard I almost passed out. Although Blackthorn or date palm thorns cause most reported cases of plant-thorn synovitis, the thorns of numerous other plants can cause it too. In this surgery, the connective tissue of the joint is removed. If you have a severe form of sporotrichosis, you doctor might start your treatment with an intravenous dose of amphotericin B followed by an antifungal medication for at least a year. I have one, too, and it's going to be either moved, or re-moved. I got a little careless and when I was diving in for another round of seeds, one of the thorns from a petiole stuck in and broke off in the back of my scalp! TOP QUALITY - This mug is made from ceramic and is perfect for any cold or hot beverages. Hot and cold Med. His friend put him on some anti-biotics. The development of the inflammation in the joint of plant thorn arthritis is a slow process that involves certain immune cells that gradually accumulate in the joint lining tissue (synovium). Puncture injuries may look harmless, but bits of thorny debris may lodge inside the wound. Me, just Phoenix pokes including under the nail, but I'm feeling lucky. More than once similiar accident happened on me through a Sabal sp involved My daughter was scratched by Copernicia alba the first day I got it from _Keith. You might want to use some hydrogen peroxide and betadine on it. Infections are particularly likely if the debris carries fungal toxins or soil bacteria, such as Pantoea agglomerans. His leg obviously hurts and he thinks part of the thorn is still in there. The seeds, rather than the thorns, are the most dangerous parts. Remember, too, that the plants are spiky to the touch -- another reason to keep your distance. Needless to say I succsessfully covered the incoming grenade w/ my body and saved all my men. These are all gruesome, but my winner so far: Matt in SD! Mine too. Aiphanes, acrocomia, copernicia are all my favorites oh and lets not forget cycads especially huge enceohalartos. 4 km inland from Indian River; 27 N (equivalent to Brisbane), Central Orlando's urban heat islandmay be warmer than us. Copernicia alba hooks while weed whackin. Those thorns are cruel. (it's like a very small thorn)? You cannot paste images directly. My arm went limp and it hurt like hell. Please make sure that you are posting in the form of a question. Warning, it may differ from "your" opinion. Walked over to start the process and got a full 20 cm spine up a vein in my leg. I would like my kids to be able to play hide and seek in my jungle without injury. Personally, only minor issues with Phoenix and Chamaerops. The progression of symptoms is typically the following: Its likely your doctor will prescribe a several-month course of antifungal medication, such as itraconazole. I lost my balance once while doing maintenance near the Acanthophoenix and put my hand on the ground hard to prevent a fall. Rather than benadryl, I use caution when working around the T. campestris. Initial treatment may involve antibiotics to help prevent infection from the thorn. By It will probably scar permanently, and I will forever have memories of the time my beloved washy injured me while I was trying to protect it ;-; I have been stabbed many times by my CIDP to keep it surviving during winter. November 26, 2005. Copyright 2022 - International Palm Society Read on for more. It occurs when the fungus gets into the skin via a small cut, scrape, or puncture, such as from a rose thorn. Rose thorns can deliver bacteria and fungi into your skin and cause infection. - Knowledgebase Question. The hardy orange (Poncirus trifoliata), also known as bitter orange and trifoliate orange, is a deciduous shrub often used in hedges. Well the bird started falling in a bad direction (towards the power lines) and, full of adrenaline, I jumped around to stop it and my arm swung into the crown of the roebelinii. Paste as plain text instead, Just like-a dat. If you notice redness, swelling, itching, or other discomfort in the area of the thorn puncture after a few days, you may need to seek further treatment. We describe a case report of an 18-year-old male . There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. Phoenix palm trees with their poisonous stabbing frond spikes are taking a heavy toll on Kiwis. . I like the idea though of capturing a scene from any dvd movie. When swelling of a palm thorn puncture occurs, arthrocentisis is necessary to rule out bacterial or fungal infection. My hand was completely paralyzed since the spine I think had pinned some of the muscles that controlled the fingers. Sounds like you'll need to watch it. He had some nice scratches on his head and respects Copernicias like he does Aiphanes(his favorite palm), now! Ouch!). (2007). Alot of times, they just break off in the skin and have to be removed. Pantoea agglomerans was identified in the synovial fluid. To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account. I was just getting enthusiastic about palms and this guy had a really nice, young, mature Chamaerops humilis in his front yard. All of this sounds so familar, a wrecked back from dragging heavy pots around, spines under the fingernail, Chamaehrops spines in the scalp, punctures, scrapes and wounds. A blunt trauma injury can cause your spleen to rupture. I finally put the sylvestris in ground and was in the act of repositioning it, I tipped it forward one way and let it come back towards me- bam! 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Puncture injuries may look harmless, but bits of thorny debris may lodge inside the wound. Livistona Decipiens is just plain gnarly, I've had to pick the recurved spines out of my arm a few times. It looks like WhatsApp is not installed on your phone. Sorta like Cameron in Ferris Beuller. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Slashed and stabbed on various occasions from W. robusta, Acanthophoenix rubra, Acrocomia aculeata, Chamaerops humilis and small Livistona mariae. Just a few of the escapades in the garden. By joining Cureus, you agree to our The pain and swelling went down right away when in the past I was dealing with the puncture for days. I was stabbed by a palm tree thorn!? If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. It took me several days before I finally was able to "dig it out". It can be difficult to diagnose plant thorn arthritis. Outlets and voltage differ internationally and this product may require an adapter or converter for use in your destination. Ouch.I did a quick Google search. Solid zone 9, I can expect at least one night in the mid to low twenties every year. Nothing gruesome, but still worth sharing. and he hauls back and kicks-a-heem. I was stabbed by a palm tree thorn!? There was a guy who fell into the crown of a Phoenix canariensis out in San Bernardino (he was working on a building and fell off and would have hit the ground, but the phoenix was there instead) and it took hours to extricate him. Plant thorn arthritis can occur if a thorn from a plant, such as a bramble or a palm tree, punctures a joint. And, Cleveageburg was overrun with Mafia types, who blew each other up from time to time. Good topic, Dean! Can diet help improve depression symptoms? Sharp thorns on their branches, trunks and the undersides or tips of fronds can puncture the skin and cause bacterial or fungal infections. I think the lingering pain from these is more due to actual material left in the puncture wound rather than any chemical or biological material on the spines. I'm going to start a thread soon on palm garden design. Carefull planning and placement can save a lot of work later on. No matter what you call them, rose thorns are sharp enough to penetrate your skin and have the ability to pass infectious material into the wound, such as: These substances delivered into the skin by a thorn could result in a number of diseases, including: Read on to learn the symptoms to watch for and how to treat infections from rose thorns. Palm Family growing pains! Nah, not really, it's a scene from a movie I posted about a few months back. I knew they were sharp but I didn't realize that they leave you with little splinters that cause irritation. Bit disturbing do you think ? True. Left a trail of blood into the house. 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